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thursday between joe biden and paul ryan voters will get a chance to hear what candidates have to say about a host of issues beyond budget, policy and health care. things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in a movie theater in colorado, i was shot. shot in the face and neck. but i was lucky. in the next four years, 48,000 americans won't be so lucky because they will be murdered with guns in the next president's term. enough to fill 200 theaters. when you watch the presidential debates, ask yourself, who has a plan to stop gun violence? let's demand a plan. it didn't get an area. joining us is comedian chris. john warner and rebecca, contributor to the magazine. i feel of two minds about the debate. focus is good. depth is good. i was appreciative they allowed depth on the issues they talked about, but f
thursday between joe biden and paul ryan voters will get a chance to hear what candidates have to say about a host of issues beyond budget, policy and health care. things like voting rights, women's rights, topics that were omitted last week between president obama and romney. the issue of sensible gun laws. the first presidential debate took place a short distance from aurora, colorado. a victim had a message for the candidates in an ad that airs during the debate. >> this past summer in...
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the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of facts. but i suspect he's going to be respectful of biden. i mean, there's a generational difference here that i think will lead ryan to not give an inch, but to not be very hostile. >> i was just going to say history shows when there's an age difference, the elder statesman wins the vice presidential debates. cheney and edwards. cheney was able to almost smack down edwards. benson and quayle, famous. joe biden, everybody talks about the gaffes on the trail, but he won most of the democratic primary debates in 2008. >> but this is a high wire act with
the question is which paul ryan do we get? do we get this same sort of, you know, chameleon we saw in mitt romney who literally walks away from virtually everything that his campaigned on for two years in the space of less than two hours. i know that vice president biden is anxious and ready to do this and the president is anxious to get back to it as well. >> how do you size it up? >> i think ryan is one of the brightest people in congress. i think he knows an immense amount of...
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the answer was biden, 39%, ryan, 55%. in many ways this mirrors what happened to the presidential debate? everyone thought president obama would win, so there's great expectations here for ryan. how much of a microscope do you think there will be on him? >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i don't dispute your polling there, but i think most people understand that joe biden has been debating for a long time, since the early 1900s. >> he knows his stuff. >> right. i think what you see, though, in some of that polling is that some of the, you know, joe biden as of late put his foot in his mouth a few times in very public ways. he said that the middle class was crushed under, you know, the policies of obama and biden, and he said some things that were problematic. however, paul is a smart guy. he has committed his life to understanding the problems of our economy, presenting a plan for the american people, so i think that paul is going to do -- going to do a great job, but i also think it's very important for people to un
the answer was biden, 39%, ryan, 55%. in many ways this mirrors what happened to the presidential debate? everyone thought president obama would win, so there's great expectations here for ryan. how much of a microscope do you think there will be on him? >> i'm not so sure about that. i mean, i don't dispute your polling there, but i think most people understand that joe biden has been debating for a long time, since the early 1900s. >> he knows his stuff. >> right. i think...
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she asked the student to leave the classroom and take off her shirt because mitt romney and paul ryan is like wrought -- wearing the kkk shirt. she should not where the republican shirt in the democratic school. she should be fired. charles: then she went into the hall and encourage them to be up superbly and mentally? >> she gathered other teachers and students to explain how the shirt is like the kkk. she says she was joking. she has a sick sense of humor or is incredibly and tolerant. she should be fired. charles: all of the above. we have to draw the line. the chicago teachers strike a were making more than the parents say we will not teach them until we get more money. when do the appearance step up? you don't want your child to be bullied by the teachers. >> of course, this teacher is the obama's supporter. not surprising he constantly bows to the teacher union thugs and bad teachers are rewarded. if there republican is elected there is school choice. they will be rewarded it on the value they create. that is a threat to to teachers like this. charles: that they will probably co
she asked the student to leave the classroom and take off her shirt because mitt romney and paul ryan is like wrought -- wearing the kkk shirt. she should not where the republican shirt in the democratic school. she should be fired. charles: then she went into the hall and encourage them to be up superbly and mentally? >> she gathered other teachers and students to explain how the shirt is like the kkk. she says she was joking. she has a sick sense of humor or is incredibly and tolerant....
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governor romney chose paul ryan as his running mate on august 11. . before that, if you look at the polling in the country, it was pretty much tied. generics were really tight. maybe up one could after august 11, when governor romney decided to double down on the republican plan to and medicare to fund tax cuts for millionaires and big oil companies, it began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up 1, 2 and 3. and then when todd aitken express' those horrific fox -- expressed those for fifth thoughts about rape, it raised it even more. and then independent voters in particular were reminded how extreme these people are and that these people have priorities that would in fact and in medicare in order to fund tax cuts for millionaires. the more republican ideas art articulated, the better we do in the polls. if the generics keep spreading, five or six or more, then we win back the house. there is a direct correlation between the generic pooling and our ability to win back the house. right now, it is going in the right direction.
governor romney chose paul ryan as his running mate on august 11. . before that, if you look at the polling in the country, it was pretty much tied. generics were really tight. maybe up one could after august 11, when governor romney decided to double down on the republican plan to and medicare to fund tax cuts for millionaires and big oil companies, it began to spread. instead of being in a neutral environment, we were up 1, 2 and 3. and then when todd aitken express' those horrific fox --...
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romney unlocked paul ryan to a certain extent and now he can leverage him if ryan can get the space to talk about it in the debate. >> paul: mary. >> i think what you can expect from paul ryan, he will repeat over and over again, the 716 billion dollars in medicare cuts that obama is putting on people who are right now relying on medicare. and he will show, he will try to show that his plan will actually save medicare while obama will destroy it. i think that's his greatest edge and that's where he's going to go. >> paul: he's got a delicate task because i think he has to defend, jason, i think he has to defend romney against what will be biden's task even as he turns around and tries to go after the president's agenda while showing his own competence on substance, on these issues, that's a more complicated taste and biden is basically going to be all in assaulting romney. >> and i think that biden is going to want to talk foreign policy and i think the polls have shown that the president's doing good on that, not as well as he was, that gap has narrowed with the events in the middle e
romney unlocked paul ryan to a certain extent and now he can leverage him if ryan can get the space to talk about it in the debate. >> paul: mary. >> i think what you can expect from paul ryan, he will repeat over and over again, the 716 billion dollars in medicare cuts that obama is putting on people who are right now relying on medicare. and he will show, he will try to show that his plan will actually save medicare while obama will destroy it. i think that's his greatest edge and...
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did youette vote for the ryan budget or did you not vote for the ryan budget that this is define sure. women's hold the republicans accountable in districts throughout the country and that is why i think we'll do pretty well. >> you talked a little bit about the circumstances you think you need to put the house formalin play this year that ballot moves, one thing that i notice in going over kind of the battleground races that is in the all the districts you mentioned like opted obama won in 2008 necessarily have a competitive candidate do you feel k lou recruited enough to get the numbers you need to get across, to great the 20-yard line to the goal line as you said? >> everything that is in our control we have not only done but we exceed expectation and so we have outrecruited the republicans. we outraised them $12 million for the system. we have outrun. we redistrict them in many areas like illinois, new york and elsewhere, california, and so, everything that we have been asked to do we have exceeded expectation. again, we have over 70 districts in place. we have got 352 red to blue
did youette vote for the ryan budget or did you not vote for the ryan budget that this is define sure. women's hold the republicans accountable in districts throughout the country and that is why i think we'll do pretty well. >> you talked a little bit about the circumstances you think you need to put the house formalin play this year that ballot moves, one thing that i notice in going over kind of the battleground races that is in the all the districts you mentioned like opted obama won...
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biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president. >> it sounds smart because of the accent. wayne, two examples. taxes that are in place and taxes that are coming in the end of the year and alling the class and behaabout the issue regulation. is that the issue that is burying the middle class. >> regulation is more of the issue. we get the bush tax cut in effect. and the idea that the last four years you have had massive taxings. no they are yet to come. man date for noncompliance in 2014 and cadillac tax in 2018 and special kids in 2013. they were not taxes of the last four years they are taxes of the future. you have had massive regulation in the last four years and executive orders coming out of the federal government
biden and ryan are agreeing. obama hasn't got the middle class out of the hole that happened under george bush's watch and policies of george bush. but look at the review. broadly obama has sought policies to decrease taxes on the middle class. 16 taxings decreased for maul business and 3600 for the class that are done underneath this president. >> it sounds smart because of the accent. wayne, two examples. taxes that are in place and taxes that are coming in the end of the year and...
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ryan has a plan to do something about it. what is the problem? >> the problem is, he would, in effect, turn medicare into a voucher program. the president touched on it but did not stay with it. he allowed romney to get away with it. the voucher program would cause people to take a chunk of money from the government and go out and buy their own insurance. only a limited amount of money would be available. then the costs go up, the senior citizens, who get that, have to pay the differee. the guarantee would be gone. that is the substance of how they would deal with medicare and that is the way it would be. the president did not make the case as effectively as he should of on that. >> that is factually wrong. let me just say, that is factually wrong. under the romney plan, the amount of money the government will give you is equal to the amount of the second lowest bid, meaning that you can get that plan for nothing, or the cheaper plan, there will be one cheaper, and then you can keep the extra money in your pocket. you have a choice, with no expen
ryan has a plan to do something about it. what is the problem? >> the problem is, he would, in effect, turn medicare into a voucher program. the president touched on it but did not stay with it. he allowed romney to get away with it. the voucher program would cause people to take a chunk of money from the government and go out and buy their own insurance. only a limited amount of money would be available. then the costs go up, the senior citizens, who get that, have to pay the differee....
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>> i agree economy is ryan's strength and foreign policy. it is critical he's able to point out the obama administration believed that strength is a vulnerability as opposed to a weakness. he need toz point that out and we can succeed with strength and everything that happened with libya and inability to come to the truth of it was a terror attack. ryan needs to highlight that and that will resonate with the people. >> we'll an analyze it income week. nit picking but we analyze it i think paul ryan will have a great night. but i think we underestimate joe bide by. the pressure is on him to clean up the strike out in denver joe bidens had to sal vage the team. i think he will surprise people and be better than republicans are prepared for. we'll see and we'll be honest and tell you what happens next week. >> thank you very much. alice and jake to have you here. >> president's campaign and trying to make up by the debate debacle by fighting back with attack ads. frank will tell us when we >> today the president has for his perfomance in the de
>> i agree economy is ryan's strength and foreign policy. it is critical he's able to point out the obama administration believed that strength is a vulnerability as opposed to a weakness. he need toz point that out and we can succeed with strength and everything that happened with libya and inability to come to the truth of it was a terror attack. ryan needs to highlight that and that will resonate with the people. >> we'll an analyze it income week. nit picking but we analyze it i...
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paul ryan voted for it, i believe. i'm confident after the election we will find a way -- >> chris: if you are so concerned about the middle class why not let the workers know they may be laid off. >> none of the employers want to send out the warren notices. why would you do that -- why would you assume -- >> chris: the law was passed because they didn't want the employers to decide. they wanted to force them to notify the workers. >> to cause that sort of disruption about something that all of us as americans trust and believe that our congress will be able to work out. >> chris: why would you believe congress is going to work out anything? >> chris, because the devastation to the economy would be so great. i often times disagree he with my counter part bob mcdonald in virginia but happen to share a region of science and security. jobs depend on our abuilt to put a greater priority on the nation's defense and a balanced budget than it does on more tax cuts for millionaires and billionaires. >> chris: senator? >> i ju
paul ryan voted for it, i believe. i'm confident after the election we will find a way -- >> chris: if you are so concerned about the middle class why not let the workers know they may be laid off. >> none of the employers want to send out the warren notices. why would you do that -- why would you assume -- >> chris: the law was passed because they didn't want the employers to decide. they wanted to force them to notify the workers. >> to cause that sort of disruption...
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ryan is a numbers guy. how do you think he'll match up to vice president biden when it comes to the economy first, foreign policy second? >> i think it will be an even match. biden was in the senate 36 years so he has a very good understanding of federal issues as well. but paul ryan jokes about how he's been reading federal budgets since he was 22 years old. so they both have a very long backlog of data they can use. i think they'll be evenly match. >> what's your word of caution for each with 30 days to go? >> don't get overconfident for both sides. >> that's good. all right. erin, always great to talk to you. heating up, getting really close. we'll talk to you again. >> sounds good. >> you don't want to miss the first vice presidential debate. i'll be sitting in front of the tv. joe biden squaring off against paul ryan and this this is the e to tune in live. that happens on october 11, 9:00 p.m. tune in a few minutes more. lots of commentary too right here on the "fox news channel." >> speaking of foreig
ryan is a numbers guy. how do you think he'll match up to vice president biden when it comes to the economy first, foreign policy second? >> i think it will be an even match. biden was in the senate 36 years so he has a very good understanding of federal issues as well. but paul ryan jokes about how he's been reading federal budgets since he was 22 years old. so they both have a very long backlog of data they can use. i think they'll be evenly match. >> what's your word of caution...
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>> i expect ryan to come out like mitt romney, a raging bull. but i expect biden not to play barack obama. i watched biden. i think he'll counterpunch and do it effectively and i think if he does, he wins. chris: any thoughts? >> there will be a lot of worries. this will be very interactive and a great debate. i'll wait before i see it. >> no fair. >> she reserves the right. >> i'm going to call it a draw. i think joe biden is pretty good in debates. and paul ryan is very smart. i think he's going to have a great night. i think they're going to meet -- chris: one thing about the media i'm not a media critic, but i think we say gaffe and in his case i think we are gaffes and used the wrong word and could have said the middle class is being squeezed instead of buried and no comment about it but if somebody says something in the back room and i don't give a damn about half the country, that's not a gaffe but a revelation. >> biden by the way knows this debate is a really big deal. chris: yeah. >> biden has to keep it together. but if he does, he ha
>> i expect ryan to come out like mitt romney, a raging bull. but i expect biden not to play barack obama. i watched biden. i think he'll counterpunch and do it effectively and i think if he does, he wins. chris: any thoughts? >> there will be a lot of worries. this will be very interactive and a great debate. i'll wait before i see it. >> no fair. >> she reserves the right. >> i'm going to call it a draw. i think joe biden is pretty good in debates. and paul ryan...
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at least paul ryan put his own plan up. president obama, he's not led like this much on the issue. >> gerry, confidence post election, somehow these guys will get their act together? >> i'm not convinced. if you look, you look at their track record. if you look at their track record, what you see is an unwillingness. >> we have a president who is not-- did you see the debate one of the most absurd things about the debate he really had no clue about some of the basics of this economy. >> that's right. >> that's not someone that is going to deal with it. >> unfamiliar and-- >> and i want to go to ben for a second. ben, you've been the one on the panel most talked about a balanced approach to this. is there a-- is there an elegant solution, one out there where everyone takes a little bit of pain, but we don't go over that proverbial fiscal cliff everyone should be worried about? >> i think high income people, people are going to have a take a lot of pain, and they, when i say we deserve it. our taxes are just too low. we need
at least paul ryan put his own plan up. president obama, he's not led like this much on the issue. >> gerry, confidence post election, somehow these guys will get their act together? >> i'm not convinced. if you look, you look at their track record. if you look at their track record, what you see is an unwillingness. >> we have a president who is not-- did you see the debate one of the most absurd things about the debate he really had no clue about some of the basics of this...
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paul ryan has never been on a stage this large. and i remember during the convention, in the first 10 minutes of his convention speech, he was really nervous. so you know -- it's not sure how this will come out. >> sarah palin had never been on a national stage when she debated joe biden and the consensus is she had a draw. joe biden i think has had a long, distinguished career, but he's become a little rusty and a little excitable on the campaign trail. >> schieffer: what do you think paul ryan has to do here? i'm sure no one would advise him to take the tack that sarah palin did, because while she caused a lot of talk, i think in the end, she was not a plus for that campaign. you may disagree, but-- >> she fought joe biden to a draw. i think paul ryan has to address some specific questions about his budget plan, but he also has to make it clear that it's hiss budget plan. m.v.p mitt romney's plan is the one that will be implemented in the white house and you can't sayeg in the ryan plan is automatically going to be in the romney
paul ryan has never been on a stage this large. and i remember during the convention, in the first 10 minutes of his convention speech, he was really nervous. so you know -- it's not sure how this will come out. >> sarah palin had never been on a national stage when she debated joe biden and the consensus is she had a draw. joe biden i think has had a long, distinguished career, but he's become a little rusty and a little excitable on the campaign trail. >> schieffer: what do you...
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part of the problem, i have asked romney and ryan repeatedly, i asked ryan on this show, last sunday, i don't agree with you it is a $5 trillion tax cut but, i said where do you make up the $5 trillion for lowering tax rates in terms of the deductions and, the loopholes, how do you make it and, he refused to tell us, and, independent experts say even if you took away all the deductions it will not add up to $5 trillion. >> the governor said in debate he understands he has to work with both sides of the aisle. we know, right now, that for example, in the house, dave camp is working on the issue of lowering, simplifying and max baucus in the senate had discussions and he said, listen i'll work with members of both sides of the aisle. it is looking at a simpson-bowles-type law and this is not new and we know it can be done and if you go back to when it was last done, simplifying the tax code, that was of course... >> chris: simpson-bowlesere a lot more specific about lowering the rates and... >> he said he'll work across the aisle unlike the president when he pushed through the health ca
part of the problem, i have asked romney and ryan repeatedly, i asked ryan on this show, last sunday, i don't agree with you it is a $5 trillion tax cut but, i said where do you make up the $5 trillion for lowering tax rates in terms of the deductions and, the loopholes, how do you make it and, he refused to tell us, and, independent experts say even if you took away all the deductions it will not add up to $5 trillion. >> the governor said in debate he understands he has to work with...
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won't the democrats try to draw him out saying this is what romney-ryan tech set about? >> absolutely. joe biden foras asplasid as obama was the other night, biden will be as tough. he's going to throw out red meat and go after ryan on his stance on abortion, women's issues. he's going to hit the social issues and it's going to be about foreign policy, which ryan has very, very limited experience. >> and medicare. i imagine he will try to deliver what obama didn't, the message that, in their opinion, the republicans are going to mess with medicare, right? >> by the end of the debate, the the world will assume that paul rysunis spending the $716 million of medicare money. it won't continue to be obama and biden will make sure that happens. >> but he has a propensity for putting his foot in his mouth? >> that is what makes it great television. you don't know what is going to happen or he's going to say. >> great television. okay. [ laughter ] this is civics, okay in. >> for political views, it's great television. >> and this is such an incredible contrast in age. >> yeah.
won't the democrats try to draw him out saying this is what romney-ryan tech set about? >> absolutely. joe biden foras asplasid as obama was the other night, biden will be as tough. he's going to throw out red meat and go after ryan on his stance on abortion, women's issues. he's going to hit the social issues and it's going to be about foreign policy, which ryan has very, very limited experience. >> and medicare. i imagine he will try to deliver what obama didn't, the message that,...
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whereas romney/ryan want to get rid of that. and in manufacturing you've seen for the first time really in years, a significant increase in manufacturing jobs. ronnellny wants to bring back the outsourcing loophole. in fact his largest donor gets a $2.3 billion tax cut under the romney plan. part of that is that he makes 90% of his money overseas, when you think about the auto recovery, romney and obama were in two different positions. when you look at outsourcing, they're in different positions. in manufacturing. for a lot of parts of virginia that don't get quite as much attention. central and southern virginia, the fact that the president has stood up for american manufacturing has been significant. i think you'll see the gender gap. i think you'll see middle class feeling like romney just wants to rig the system a little too much for the high end. >> tom perriello, former democratic congressman, thank you. we want to note that we did invite a surrogate from mitt romney's campaign to join us later. but no one was available on
whereas romney/ryan want to get rid of that. and in manufacturing you've seen for the first time really in years, a significant increase in manufacturing jobs. ronnellny wants to bring back the outsourcing loophole. in fact his largest donor gets a $2.3 billion tax cut under the romney plan. part of that is that he makes 90% of his money overseas, when you think about the auto recovery, romney and obama were in two different positions. when you look at outsourcing, they're in different...
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which is biden on and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign after the first debate. looking at some of the enthusiasm. later my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. more to come with our special panel. nel right after this. >>> "meet the press" [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and maybe have to take up to four in a day. or take aleve, which can relieve pain all day with just two pills. good eye. and you learned something along the way. this is the age of knowing what you're made of. so, why let erectile dysfunction get in your way? talk to your doctor about viagra. 20 million men already have. ask if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain; it may cause an unsafe drop in blood pressure. side effects include headache, flushing, upset stomach, and abnormal vision. to a
which is biden on and ryan. we also want to go inside the numbers with chuck todd for a look at how the campaign is feeling good. the romney campaign after the first debate. looking at some of the enthusiasm. later my conversation as i mentioned with arnold schwarzenegger. more to come with our special panel. nel right after this. >>> "meet the press" [ male announcer ] this is anna, her long day teaching the perfect swing begins with back pain and a choice. take advil, and...
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joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium lived up to the name last neat. fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart faced off in a debate at george washington university. some found it more entertaining than the presidential one. >> in man has offended -- this man over here has offended every single american. are you go to stand there -- are you sitting or standing? >> i read the bible. >> we are only as good as dpaish. >> i am short, but when you tell me i'm short, i don't blame the liberal weights or measures bureau or suggest my numbers are skews and i'm really 6'1" if only the lame street media would tell people. i trust i'm 5'7". >> you don't know this, but the feds pay for that licft. all right? >> if you missed it last night watch it online at therumble2012.com. >>> people are lining up to stroet for president, but the man they hope to elect is in ven venezuela. we'll go there live. the countdown is on in florida with a launch
joe biden/paul ryan go at it on thursday. the coverage begins at 7:00 eastern time. >>> the rumble in the air-conditioned auditorium lived up to the name last neat. fox news host bill o'reilly and jon stewart faced off in a debate at george washington university. some found it more entertaining than the presidential one. >> in man has offended -- this man over here has offended every single american. are you go to stand there -- are you sitting or standing? >> i read the...
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ryan is still the conservative. won't the democrats try to draw him out saying this is when a romney-ryan ticket is about in. >> absolutely. joe biden for as placid as obama was, he is going to throw red meat at ryan. and it's going to be also about foreign policy which ryan has little experience. >> and then medicare. >> by the end of the debate, the world will assume that paul ryan is spending the $716 billion in medicare money. it will not continue to be obama. >> biden also has a propensity for, shall we say, putting his foot in his snout. >> that's what makes it such great television. you don't know what he's going to say. >> great television. >> okay. >> this is civic, okay? >> political game. this is for television. >> and there is such an incredible contrast in age. ryan looks like he is 25. biden looks like he is three times 25. it's going to be interesting from that standpoint as well. >> we will be breaking it down for you next sunday. >> that's right. >>> but coming up, we'll have one last look at some o
ryan is still the conservative. won't the democrats try to draw him out saying this is when a romney-ryan ticket is about in. >> absolutely. joe biden for as placid as obama was, he is going to throw red meat at ryan. and it's going to be also about foreign policy which ryan has little experience. >> and then medicare. >> by the end of the debate, the world will assume that paul ryan is spending the $716 billion in medicare money. it will not continue to be obama. >>...
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paul ryan enjoys doing that. i think you'll see these guys in a nice traditional debate, and i'm getting my popcorn ready. it should be good. >> all right. dana millbank of the "washington post" thanks so much. don't miss the next political face-off, the duel in danville, kentucky, joe biden and paul ryan go at it thursday evening. our coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> preaching politics from the pulpit, p if it happens churche risk losing tax-exempt status. many religious leaders across the country challenge the law anyway. find out why. he delicious sugar-free vitafusion fiber well gummies have more fiber than other leading brands. they're the better way to enjoy your fiber. . >>> they're calling for the defate of president obama and so-called unbiblical candidates. organizers hoped as many as 1500 pastors across the country would take part today. dan gilgoff joins us from washington to tell us more about what's happening here. dan, who is behind this, and what causes a candidate to be defined as "
paul ryan enjoys doing that. i think you'll see these guys in a nice traditional debate, and i'm getting my popcorn ready. it should be good. >> all right. dana millbank of the "washington post" thanks so much. don't miss the next political face-off, the duel in danville, kentucky, joe biden and paul ryan go at it thursday evening. our coverage begins at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. >>> preaching politics from the pulpit, p if it happens churche risk losing tax-exempt...
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paul ryan a week ago was asked about the math for this and paul ryan, said, look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution is he just decided there wasn't math involved in this problem and that's absolutely crazy. look, the only thing he outlined that he would cut in the budget is big bird. you know, he's taken the battle straight to "sesame street" and let wall street run hog wild. it was a masterful manyperformance. it was fundamentally honest to the american people and if you're willing to say anything to get elected president, willing to make up your positions and walk away from them i think the american people have to understand how can they trust you if you are elected president. >> the vice presidential debate. joe biden coming up. he stepped in it a little bit this week with the comment about the middle class being buried the last four years. take a look. >> how they can justify, how they can justify raising taxes on the middle class that's been buried the last four years. how in lord's name can they justify raising their taxes with these tax cuts. >> two questio
paul ryan a week ago was asked about the math for this and paul ryan, said, look, the math takes too long. well, mitt romney's solution is he just decided there wasn't math involved in this problem and that's absolutely crazy. look, the only thing he outlined that he would cut in the budget is big bird. you know, he's taken the battle straight to "sesame street" and let wall street run hog wild. it was a masterful manyperformance. it was fundamentally honest to the american people and...
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not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a tricky position. he would like to go on the offensive. he is good at prosecuting that record, the debt and obama care and all that but he also has to defend romney and got to lot let biden undercut what romney did on wednesday night. >> geraldo: i read something that you wrote that suggested that romney won by being moral not just matter of fact about the issues of the economy for example. what did you mean? >> there was a key moment about 25 minutes in. they had the exchange on taxes for the first 20-25 minutes and romney di
not to ryan but to romney. if i were biden i would take all 45 minutes of the 90 minutes i have to attack romney both on the record and romney was wrong about the $5 trillion tax cut and doesn't do anything for the unsinced. uninsured. and raise things that obama didn't raise for whatever reason. the 47%. george w. bush was not mentioned in the debate wednesday night. bain capital. it will be a big assault both personal and in policy terms on mitt romney from joe biden. puts paul ryan in a...
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hopefully he doesn't accidentally call paul ryan ryan paul or confuse him with paul rudd, tell him he was great in "40-year-old virgin." on the flip side i think paul rayan doesn't need to fall into the sarah palin trap and refer to joe as o'biden. and perhaps if biden wants to actually have some facts ready, unlike obama did when paul ryan hammers him for wanting to cut $716 billion out of medicare, please respond by saying, that's the same $716 billion that you propose cutting from medicare. small fact but it works. >> i think it would be funny if he was like, listen rand paul or ryan -- that would be hilarious if he did that. paul ryan can go, you betcha. >> exactly. >> there's going to be i'm sure a lot of focus on this, on vice president joe biden, really i should say on paul ryan as well because fairly new to the national stage at this level and the pressure is going to be on both of them because of the president's performance and mitt romney performed well. people are going to say paul ryan should perform well. looking ahead, what does the president need to do or say to come ou
hopefully he doesn't accidentally call paul ryan ryan paul or confuse him with paul rudd, tell him he was great in "40-year-old virgin." on the flip side i think paul rayan doesn't need to fall into the sarah palin trap and refer to joe as o'biden. and perhaps if biden wants to actually have some facts ready, unlike obama did when paul ryan hammers him for wanting to cut $716 billion out of medicare, please respond by saying, that's the same $716 billion that you propose cutting from...
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himself a bit from some things that are in the ryan plan. you can just sort of see biden planning to kind of tie the two of them together around a plan and say, look, this is not for the middle class. it will ruin the middle class, and you know that's coming. >> you're moderating the second presidential debate coming up on october 16th, which is very exciting for all of us here at cnn. how are you preparing? >> oh, man. every way i can. you know, i'm listening. we have a great team, the folks you never see on the camera here at cnn, that bring me research stuff that say, hey, there's this, there's that, here's the other thing. it's a little bit of everything, and you're also just sort of while this builds up, and the president will go out and do this. you're just trying to maintain a kind of zen level here so when you go out, it's just a good substantive debate and exchange between the two guys. >> well, we're excited for you. we know you'll do a great job, candy. thank you very much. >>> keep it here, of course, for state of the union with
himself a bit from some things that are in the ryan plan. you can just sort of see biden planning to kind of tie the two of them together around a plan and say, look, this is not for the middle class. it will ruin the middle class, and you know that's coming. >> you're moderating the second presidential debate coming up on october 16th, which is very exciting for all of us here at cnn. how are you preparing? >> oh, man. every way i can. you know, i'm listening. we have a great team,...